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Zulima H. Carpenter

Zulima H. Carpenter

Male 1826 - 1830  (3 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Zulima H. Carpenter was born on 29 Jan 1826 in Bristol, Ontario, New York (son of Abner Loomis Carpenter and Rebecca McNair); died in 1830 in Bristol, Ontario, New York.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Abner Loomis CarpenterAbner Loomis Carpenter was born on 21 Dec 1799 in Ontario, New York (son of Robert Carpenter and Phebe McNair); died on 11 Jan 1851 in Vigo, Indiana; was buried in 1851 in Kennedy Cemetery, Sandcut, Vigo, Indiana.

    Notes:

    4/18/2009 In 2007 I personally walked and examined every grave with a headstone which exists in Kennedy Cemetery, Sandcutt, Vigo, IN. Assuming the facts are correct that Abner McNair Carpenter was buried here the location is now lost to the ages unless plat maps exist that are unknown to the current researchers. Ron Yates b.1947 Abner Carpenter is my 2g Grandfather.

    Family Data Collection - Births about Abner Mcnair Carpenter Name: Abner Mcnair Carpenter Father: Robert Carpenter Mother: Phebe Mcnair Birth Date: 21 Dec 1799 City: Agusta County: Ontario State: NY Country: USA

    Family Data Collection - Individual Records about Abner Mcnair Carpenter Name: Abner Mcnair Carpenter Parents: Robert Carpenter, Phebe Mcnair Birth Place: Ontario, Agusta, NY Birth Date: 21 Dec 1799 Marriage Place: Franklin, IN Marriage Date: 28 Mar 1822 Death Place: IN Death Date: 1851

    Indiana Marriages, 1802-1892 about Abner Carpenter Name: Abner Carpenter Spouse: Rebecca McNair Date: 28 Mar 1822 County: Franklin State: Indiana Source: Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT Microfilm: 1854692 - 1854694

    1840 United States Federal Census about Abner Carpenter Name: Abner Carpenter Home in 1840 (City, County, State): Porter, Indiana Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 2 Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1 Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1 Free White Persons - Under 20: 6 Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2 Total Free White Persons: 8 Total All Persons - Free White, Free Colored, Slaves: 8

    sburkhalterwisdorg yatesvilleron@gmail.com, 3 of 3 messages, 150615; Abner McNair Carpenter Hi Ron, I found two books at the University of Michigan online library regarding Calhoun County that has Abner being the child of Robert. I also got a copy of Margaret Wilson Carpenter Bostic's death certificate. It lists her father as being Carpenter and her mother as McNair. I'm waiting on one more document to submit my DAR application (my mom and dad's divorce papers). I'd be happy to share any or all of my documentation if you are interested. Thanks for replying to me! Sylvia

    Abner married Rebecca McNair on 28 Mar 1822 in Franklin, Indiana. Rebecca (daughter of John McNair, III and Hannah Allen) was born on 21 Jan 1802 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York; died on 19 Dec 1846 in Valparaiso, Porter, Indiana; was buried in 1846 in Rolling Prairie Cemetery, Rolling Prairie, La Porte, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Rebecca McNairRebecca McNair was born on 21 Jan 1802 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York (daughter of John McNair, III and Hannah Allen); died on 19 Dec 1846 in Valparaiso, Porter, Indiana; was buried in 1846 in Rolling Prairie Cemetery, Rolling Prairie, La Porte, Indiana.
    Children:
    1. Phebe C. Carpenter was born on 11 Aug 1823 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; died on 14 Mar 1904 in Neosho, Kansas; was buried on 16 Mar 1904 in Neosho, Kansas.
    2. 1. Zulima H. Carpenter was born on 29 Jan 1826 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; died in 1830 in Bristol, Ontario, New York.
    3. John McNair Carpenter was born on 24 Aug 1828 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; died on 19 Feb 1887 in Marshall, Clark, Illinois; was buried in Ohio Cemetery, Melrose, Clark, Illinois.
    4. Hannah Allen Carpenter was born on 1 Sep 1830 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; died about 1875 in Willow Hill, Jasper, Illinois.
    5. Robert Calvin Carpenter was born on 30 May 1833 in Decatur, Indiana; died on 11 Feb 1863 in Davidson, Tennesse.
    6. Daniel M. Carpenter was born on 30 May 1833 in St. Omar, Decatur, Indiana; died on 30 May 1833 in St. Omar, Decatur, Indiana.
    7. Thomas Calvin Carpenter was born on 19 Apr 1836 in Indiana; died on 19 Apr 1836 in Indiana.
    8. Benjamin Jonas Carpenter was born on 19 Apr 1836 in Indiana; died on 12 Jul 1860.
    9. Abner Griffin Carpenter was born on 16 Mar 1838 in Valparaiso, Porter, Indiana; died on 8 Mar 1891 in Eureka Springs, Carroll, Arkansas.
    10. Margaret Wilson Carpenter was born on 26 Sep 1840 in Big River, Lake, Indiana; died in Apr 1924 in Marshall, Illinois; was buried in Shiloh Cemetery, Jasper, Illinois.
    11. Jane Henry Carpenter was born on 27 Dec 1843 in Big River, Indiana; died on 3 Apr 1928 in Champaign, Illinois; was buried in Shiloh Cemetery, Jasper, Illinois.
    12. Rebecca M. Carpenter was born on 19 Dec 1846 in Big River, Indiana; died on 30 Dec 1846 in Big River, Indiana.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Robert Carpenter was born in 1775 in Palmer, Hampden, Massachusetts (son of Robert Carpenter and Mercy Roberts); died on 3 Apr 1838 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; was buried in Pleasant Valley East Cemetery, Springwater, Livingston, New York.

    Notes:

    Name Robert Carpenter Father Robert Carpenter Mother Mercy Birth Date 1775 City Palmer State MA Country USA

    Name Robert Carpenter Spouse Steffen Siversen Parents Robert Carpenter, Mercy Birth Place Palmer, MA Birth Date 1775 Marriage Place Augusta, Ontario County, NY Marriage Date 1798 Death Place South Bristol, Livingston County, NY Death Date 3 April 1838

    Name Robert Carpenter Parents Robert, Mary Charity Carpenter, Roberts Birth Place Palmer, CT Birth Date 1775 Marriage Place Agusta, Yates, NY Marriage Date 1798 Death Place South Bristol, Ontario, NY Death Date 3 April 1838

    Name Phebe Mcnair Parents Robert, Sarah Mcnair, Cranston Birth Place Portsmouth, RI Birth Date 2 October 1781 Marriage Place Agusta, Yates, NY Marriage Date 1798 Death Place East Springwater, Livingston, NY Death Date 26 September 1868

    New York, Genealogical Records, 1675-1920 Name Robert Carpenter Residence Date abt 1800 Residence Place Augusta, Oneida, New York, United States

    Father was killed at the 2nd Battle of Saratoga, 10/7/1777. Name: Carpenter, Robert, Source Info: Volume 3 page 125 Information: Carpenter, Robert, Kingstown (also given Palmer). Return of men enlisted into Continental Army in 1777, from Capt. Aaron Graves's co., Col. Pynchon's regt., dated Palmer, Feb. 9, 1778; residence, Palmer; enlisted for town of Palmer; joined Col. Jackson's regt.; enlistment, 3 years; also, Corporal, Capt. James Keith's co., Col. Michael Jackson's regt.; Continental Army pay accounts for service from April 24, 1777, to Oct. 7, 1777; reported killed Oct. 7, 1777.

    Mr. Abner Loomis raised Roberet after his father was killed. He was killed in a fall from a wagon in 1838 on Election day in Bristol. They were reentered in East Springwater Cemetery (AKA Pleasant Valley East Cemetery), Livingston County NY

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    Robert married Phebe McNair in 1798 in Augusta, Ontario, New York. Phebe (daughter of Robert McNair and Sarah Cranston) was born on 10 Feb 1781 in Portsmouth, Rhode Island; died on 26 Sep 1868 in South Bristol, New York; was buried in Pleasant Valley East Cemetery, Springwater, Livingston, New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Phebe McNair was born on 10 Feb 1781 in Portsmouth, Rhode Island (daughter of Robert McNair and Sarah Cranston); died on 26 Sep 1868 in South Bristol, New York; was buried in Pleasant Valley East Cemetery, Springwater, Livingston, New York.

    Notes:

    They were reentered in East Springwater Cemetery (AKA Pleasant Valley East Cemetery), Livingston County NY

    Children:
    1. 2. Abner Loomis Carpenter was born on 21 Dec 1799 in Ontario, New York; died on 11 Jan 1851 in Vigo, Indiana; was buried in 1851 in Kennedy Cemetery, Sandcut, Vigo, Indiana.
    2. Sarah Carpenter was born on 26 Sep 1801 in Middlesex, Yates, New York; died on 28 Apr 1888 in South Bristol, New York; was buried in Wilder Cemetery, South Bristol, Ontario, New York.
    3. Benjamin Cranston Carpenter was born on 25 Jul 1804 in Middlesex, Yates, New York; died on 11 Dec 1872 in Bloomfield, Ontario, New York; was buried in Baptist Hill Cemetery/Evergreen Cemetery.
    4. Nathaniel W. Carpenter was born on 14 Sep 1806 in Middlesex, Yates, New York; died on 23 Jul 1864 in Prairieville, Barry, Michigan.
    5. Calvin Loomis Carpenter, Sr. was born on 2 Aug 1808 in Middlesex, Yates, New York; died on 18 Mar 1886 in Athens, Calhoun, Michigan; was buried in North Sherwood Cemetery, Branch, Michigan.
    6. Betsy A. Carpenter was born on 14 Sep 1810 in Middlesex, Yates, New York; died on 12 Sep 1892 in Mason, Michigan; was buried in North Weare Cemetery, Oceana Co., Michigan.
    7. Robert O. Carpenter was born on 21 Oct 1812 in Middlesex, Yates, New York; died in Aug 1871 in Melville, Kansas.
    8. Margeret Carpenter was born on 17 Sep 1814 in Ontario, New York; died on 10 Feb 1878 in Barry, Michigan.
    9. Nancy Carpenter was born on 13 Nov 1816 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; died on 15 Feb 1895 in Washtenaw, Michigan; was buried in Oakwood Cemetery, Saline, Michigan.
    10. Rowena Truman Carpenter was born on 10 Jul 1819 in Ontario, New York; died on 29 Dec 1893 in Ontario, New York; was buried in Baptist Hill Cemetery/Evergreen Cemetery.
    11. William Carpenter was born on 6 Apr 1821 in Ontario, New York; died on 7 Sep 1896 in Livingston, New York; was buried in East Springwater, Livingston, New York.
    12. Phebe Carpenter was born on 9 Apr 1823 in Ontario, New York; died on 23 Oct 1877 in Barry, Michigan; was buried in Praireville Cemetery, Praireville, Barry, Michigan.
    13. Christina Carpenter was born on 11 Nov 1826 in Ontario, New York; died on 28 Jan 1827 in Ontario, New York.

  3. 6.  John McNair, III was born in 1776 in Newport, Rhode Island (son of John McNair, Jr.); died on 28 Aug 1835 in Decatur, Indiana.

    John married Hannah Allen about 1797 in Yates, New York. Hannah (daughter of Thomas Allen and Rebecca Allen) was born on 3 Aug 1767 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island; died on 16 Feb 1836 in St. Omar, Decatur, Indiana. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Hannah Allen was born on 3 Aug 1767 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island (daughter of Thomas Allen and Rebecca Allen); died on 16 Feb 1836 in St. Omar, Decatur, Indiana.

    Notes:

    Name: Hannah Allen Birth Date: 3 Aug 1767 Birth Place: Portsmouth, Rhode Island, USA Father Name: Thomas Allen Mother Name: Rebecca Allen Page Number: 51

    Children:
    1. Penelope McNair was born in 1798 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York.
    2. John McNair, IV was born in 1799 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York.
    3. 3. Rebecca McNair was born on 21 Jan 1802 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York; died on 19 Dec 1846 in Valparaiso, Porter, Indiana; was buried in 1846 in Rolling Prairie Cemetery, Rolling Prairie, La Porte, Indiana.
    4. Sally McNair was born on 23 Jan 1804 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York; died on 13 Apr 1892 in La Porte, Indiana.
    5. Thomas Allen McNair was born on 20 Aug 1811 in Vine Valley, Yates, New York; died on 30 Dec 1873 in Willow Hill, Jasper, Illinois.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Robert Carpenter was born on 25 Mar 1722 in Kent, Rhode Island (son of Christopher Carpenter and Mercy Taylor); died on 7 Oct 1777 in Saratoga Co., New York.

    Notes:

    CARPENTER, ROBERT DAR Ancestor #: A019513 Service: CONTINENTAL LINE Rank: CORPORAL Birth: 3-5-1722 EAST GREENWICH FAIRFIELD CO CONNECTICUT Death: 10-7-1777 STILLWATER ALBANY CO NEW YORK Service Source: BLWT 1354-100; MASS SOLS & SAILS VOL 3, P125Service Description: 1) ALSO PVT CAPT.KEITH COL. JACKSON Residence 1) City: PALMER - County: HAMPSHIRE CO - State: CONNECTICUT Spouse: 1)CHARITY ROBERTS 2)MERCY X

    Robert Carpenter (1722-1777)

    This synopsis of certain events related to Robert Carpenter has been prepared by his 4th Great Grandson exactly 230 years after his death while serving as a member of the Continental Army during the historic battle of Saratoga, NY. This battle is historic for several reasons. Foremost among these was the timing of this clear cut American military victory over Britain, a recognized world military power. This victory allowed France to have confidence in the Continental United States as an emerging country independent of Britain, France's despised enemy. France's support was not only diplomatic but also financial and in the end a critical display of Naval power at Yorktown, VA.

    Robert Carpenter was born 5 March 1722 in E. Greenwich, RI, and died 7 October 1777 in the Saratoga, NY second battle of Bemis Heights (Ref. MA01, SA02). He was the son of Christopher Carpenter and Mercy Roberts Taylor. He married Charity Allice Roberts 26 OCT 1755 in E. Greenwich, RI. She was born 1726/1733 in Warwick, Kent Co, RI. He married Mercy Roberts in 1762 in West Greenwich, RI. She was born about 1747 in West Greenwich, RI. At the time of his enlistment in the Continental Army Robert appears to have been a resident of Palmer, Massachusetts. Palmer is approximately 60 miles west of Boston, MA. He is referenced in the publication "History of the Town of Palmer, Massachusetts" as enlisting for town of Palmer. (Author: J.H. Temple Pages: 653 Pub. Date: 1889 ISBN: 1933828064).

    His service records also mention Kingstown. This reference may be a reference to an earlier part of his life. Available records indicate Robert was born in E. Greenwich, RI E. Greenwich, RI is approximately 60 miles southwest of Boston. E. Greenwich, RI is also about 60 miles southeast of Palmer, MA. E. Greenwich, RI today is part of the bay area complex of Providence, RI and is within 5 miles of North Kingstown, RI. It is my speculation that the reference to Kingstown in his military service records may be a geographical distinction made by Robert about his birthplace or early childhood home.

    To better understand the importance of this battle and perhaps connect some dots regarding Robert's participation I have recently read two publications that I found readable and informative. The two publications are "Benedict Arnold's Navy" by James L. Nelson and "Saratoga" by Richard M. Ketchum. In preparation for a visit to the battlefield in September 2007 I contacted the staff at the Saratoga National Battlefield. Eric H. Schnitzer, Park Ranger/Historian, Saratoga National Historical Park was invaluable in providing officer specific information and was able to identify Robert Carpenter in his records as well. I think I have been able to connect some organizational dots in terms of unit commands. I certainly have a much better appreciation of this specific conflict and how it fits into the under appreciated northern campaigns of the American Revolution. On a visit to Montreal, Canada in 2003 I was surprised that as we toured fortifications in that city the United States was the aggressor they had prepared against; now I understand why.

    Continental Army pay accounts exist for Robert Carpenter's service in the Continental Army from April 24, 1777, to Oct. 7, 1777. Robert may have been an active participant in the local militia prior to his enlistment in the Continental Army. It is important to indicate that there is a significant difference between serving in these two different capacities. In some respects not understanding the difference and under estimating the fighting capacity of a Continental Soldier contributed to the British defeat at Saratoga. A relative correlation can be made by contrasting the differences between a Volunteer Community Fire Department and a fully organized professional Fire Department. By the time 1777 arrived the Continental United States had it's version of a professional standing army. Therefore, our ancestor Robert Carpenter enlisted for 3 years as a professional solider at the age of 55 years old. Upon enlistment he was provided the rank of corporal indicating he was a leader.

    In the U.S. Army a Corporal (CPL) is the first non-commissioned officer rank. Corporals are found in many combat units. The typical criterion for promotion to Corporal is that the soldier must be serving in a leadership position that would typically be occupied by an NCO such as a Sergeant. It is common for a Corporal to lead a fireteam. The rank of Corporal is the only rank in the United States Army that has never been removed from the NCO Corps. Fireteams generally consist of four or fewer soldiers and are usually grouped by two teams into a squad or section.

    The concept of the fireteam is based on the need for tactical flexibility in infantry operations. A fireteam is capable of autonomous operations as part of a larger unit. Successful fireteam employment relies on quality small unit training for soldiers, experience of fireteam members operating together, sufficient communications infrastructure, and a quality non-commissioned officer corps to provide tactical leadership for the team. The creation of effective fireteams is seen as essential for creating an effective professional military as they serve as a primary group.

    For purposes of this synopsis it is useful to connect the names of various individuals during the buildup to and the actual Battle of Saratoga which was fought in two distinct military actions on September 19th and October 7th. In terms of day-to-day command structure and soldier life corporals relate to and serve under the orders of commissioned officers. 1st Lt Thomas Hartshorn, 2nd Lt Ebenezer Fisk, and Ensign William Redding are the men who Robert Carpenter would have directly served under and carried out operations during the Battle of Saratoga. These men in turn reported to and took their direction from Captain James Keith who was the Company Commanding Officer.

    During Saratoga it appears that Captain Keith's superior officer was Major William Hull, Colonel Michael Jackson's 8th MA Regiment, Brigadier General Ebenezer Learned's Brigade from 1 January 1777 to 31 December 1779. Major Hull commanded a company from Derby at the siege of Boston, the battles at Long Island and White Plains. After the battle of Trenton, he was promoted to major. He served 31 months 12 days as Major, 4 months 18 days as Lieutenant Colonel from 1 January 1777 to 31 December 1779; also, Lieutenant Colonel, Colonel John Greaton's Regiment; from 1 January 1780 to 31 December 1780; also, Lieutenant Colonel, 6th MA Regiment commanded by Colonel Benjamin Tupper. He also served at Princeton, Monmouth and Stony Point, and in 1779, was inspector of the army under Baron Steuben. He was born 1753 at Derby, CT, and died 1825 at Newton, MA His wife was Sarah Fuller. They had at least one daughter, Julia. Ref. DA01(#13243), MA01, SN01

    Major Hull was supervised by Colonel Michael Jackson, 8th MA Regiment, Brigadier General Ebenezer Learned's Brigade. At Bunker Hill he killed a British officer in a hand-to-hand combat. He was made Lieutenant Colonel of Colonel Bond's regiment, and was wounded at Montressor's Island, NY. He was subsequently promoted to the command of the 8th regiment but his wound prevented his further active participation in battle. Major; Colonel Thomas Gardner's Regiment, commissioned 2 Jun 1775; also, Major, Colonel Bond's Regiment, Maj. General Green's division; in 1776; chosen Lieutenant Colonel, Colonel John Robertson's Regiment, 23 January 1776; also, Colonel, 8th MA Regiment; 1 January 1777 to 31 December 1780; also, 3d MA Regiment commanded by Jackson; 31 Oct 1783. He was born in Newton, MA, December. 18, 1734; son of Michael and Phoebe (Patten) Jackson; grandson of Edward and Mary Jackson. He resigned at the close of the war and retired to his farm in Newton. He had five brothers and five sons in the patriot army during the Revolution. He was married to Ruth, daughter of Ebenezer Parker. He died at Newton, MA, 10 April 1801. Ref. MA01, SA01, SN01, TW01, US01.

    Ebenezer Learned, Brigadier General, commanding a brigade under Major General Horatio Gates. Colonel of a Massachusetts Regiment, 19 April to December 1775; Colonel 3d Continental Infantry, 1 January 1776; Brigadier General Continental Army, 2 April 1777; resigned 24 March 1778. He was born 18 April 1728, Oxford MA, died 1 April 1801, Oxford MA. His father was Colonel Ebenezer Learned, born 31 August 1690; his mother was Deborah Haynes, born 30 July 1690. Ref. AN01, MA01, SN01

    Horatio Gates was The Commanding General of the American forces at the Saratoga battles. He first came to America to fight in the British army in the French and Indian Wars. In 1772 he retired from the British army and came to America where he settled in West Virginia. He joined the American forces as a General at the start of the Revolutionary War. After his victory in the Saratoga Campaign he fell into disgrace and resigned as the result of an attempt to have him replace George Washington as Commander-in-Chief. He rejoined again in 1780 and suffered a defeat as the head of the North Carolina troops. He resigned again but was reinstated after the surrender of Cornwallis. He was born 1727 in Maldon, Eng. After the war lived the remainder of his life in New York City, where he died, 10 April 1806. Ref. SA01, EN01

    [I have read that Lt. Col. John Brooks (who later became governor of Massachusetts) was commanding the 8th Massachusetts regiment during the Saratoga campaign while Michael Jackson was recovering from the wound he received in 1776. I thought you might want to include this in your write-up. SOURCE; Bob Masters 10/2/2016]

    Benedict Arnold, as a Major General, assisted General Gates in the victory of the Saratoga Campaign. Prior to the Saratoga Campaign he performed brilliantly in his various engagements: the capture of Fort Ticonderoga (with Ethan Allen), the march to Quebec City and the stubborn retreat on Lake Champlain that prevented a British invasion, and his march to Fort Stanwix, forcing General St. Leger to retreat just prior to the Saratoga Campaign. His actions at the Saratoga battles were decisive in winning that campaign. If he had died at the Battle of Saratoga he would be celebrated today as one of America's best fighting Generals.

    His subsequent actions were reprehensible: falling in with a Loyalist group and marrying into a Loyalist family while military governor of Philadelphia, his providing military intelligence to Sir Henry Clinton, and then, his offer as commandant of West Point to surrender the fort to the British. After his escape to New York to join Clinton, he fought on the side of the British until he sailed to England with Cornwallis after his surrender. He was generally treated poorly there. He and his second wife are buried in St. Mary's Church, Battersea, Eng. Born 14 January 1741 in Norwich, CT, he first married Margaret Mansfield on 22 Feb 1767. They had three sons. She died Jun 1775. He married Margaret Shippen, an 18 year old daughter of a Loyalist family in Philadelphia. She went to England with her husband and died there in 1804. He died 14 June 1801. Ref. SA01, EN01

    Several other soldiers of the name Carpenter also served in the Battle of Saratoga. We have no clear reason to connect Robert Carpenter to these other Carpenters other than to speculate that since the Northern Campaign had a high degree of New England state citizens in service and considering the total population of these states it is not unlikely that some of these other Carpenter Soldiers could be relatives. In the absence of such proof I will list these patriots to enable others to perhaps make family connections:

    CARPENTER, David; (CT) Private, Capt. Stone's Company, Colonel Latimer's Regiment, from 23 August to 9 November 1777. Ref. CT01

    CARPENTER, Jesse; (NH) Private, Capt. Hayward's co, Colonel Jonathan Chase's Regiment, from 2 October to 26 October 1777. Ref. NH02

    CARPENTER, John; Private, Capt. Samuel Cabell's Company, Colonel Morgan's Corp; from July to November 1777. Ref. NA03, SA05

    CARPENTER, Nehemiah; (MA Suffolk Co.) Private, Capt. John Bradley's Company, Colonel Benjamin Gill's Regiment; from 14 August 1777; for 3 mos. 28 days.

    CARPENTER, Zebulon; (MA Becket) Private, Capt. Moses Ashley's Company, Colonel Joseph Vose's Regiment; from 1 May 1777, died 19 Sep 1777. Ref. MA01

    In the first phase of the Battle of Saratoga, the Battle of Freeman's Farm on September 19th, Ebenezer Learned's brigade was not very effective. Working forward in the center of the line, they mainly got lost in the woods, and exchanged light fire near the end of the battle. However, at the Battle of Bemis Heights on October 7th, Ebenezer Learned's brigade was in the center of the left division, commanded by General Benjamin Lincoln. Learned's own brigade (the 2nd, 8th, and 9th Massachusetts line), was expanded by James Livingston's 1st New York Regiment and 2 regiments of New Hampshire Militia the 2nd and 4th. The attack on the American far left was turned by Daniel Morgan's men, but the enemy's center was held by Hessian troops. Benedict Arnold came onto the field and encouraged the men.

    Generals Arnold and Learned (this should have included Robert Carpenter's 8th Massachusetts line) led a joint charge on the Hessian positions, and, even though Arnold fell wounded, Learned and his men carried through and broke the enemy lines. British General John Burgoyne's forces had to retreat to their starting fortifications around Freeman's Farm. When their charge carried the first bunker, Burgoyne's forces withdrew to the positions they had held before the Freeman's Farm battle. This skirmish has been named the assault on the Breymann Redoubt. Breymann is the Hessian officer in charge of the redoubt which is a type of barrier constructed to give cover to soldiers firing their weapons. Breymann himself did not survive this assault.

    The British Commanding General John Burgoyne already outnumbered 3 to 1, had lost 1,000 men total including the casualties sustained during the Battle of Freeman's Farm, while American losses came to about 500 killed and wounded. He had lost several of his most effective leaders. The maneuver had failed, and his forward line was now breached. On the evening of October 7th he lit fires at his remaining forward positions and withdrew under the cover of darkness. So on the morning of October 8, he was back in the fortified positions he had held on September 16. Burgoyne's Army was weaker than before and had fewer supplies. The American forces were still growing stronger. The following day, he withdrew another 8 miles to Saratoga, New York. The stage was set for the final act of the Battle of Saratoga and his later surrender.

    It would appear that Corporal Robert Carpenter was serving in the proper unit participating in this famous Breymann Redoubt assault co-lead by Generals Benedict Arnold and Ebenezer Learned. It would appear that Robert and his unit was moved into placed in the general buildup of Massachusetts Continental Line soldiers and participated in the combined actions of the Battle of Saratoga. Robert Carpenter is reported as having been killed in the action of October 7th. This action was primarily an afternoon of action which was broken off at sunset. It is noted that post battle accounts seem to indicate that approximately 70 soldiers died during the night of October 7, 1777. Robert could have been killed outright in the assault and/or died of his wounds during the evening hours. We do not have a known record of his burial location. He may be buried in a mass grave at the battlefield. Other unrelated accounts of cemetery development in the area indicate that wagons full of dead soldiers stacked like cordwood were transported to a local cemetery for burial.

    The battle of Saratoga was not won or lost solely by the events occurring in the days at the battle ground September 19th through October 7th. As the time for this battle neared many elements of luck, greed, personal ambition, stupidity, jealousy, poor decision making, poor intelligence, bad logistical support and military tenacity shifted in the favor of the Continental Forces. I was impressed and pleased by the concept that my 4th Great Grandfather and the remainder of the Continental Forces were able to approach this battle with an optimistic sense of prevailing in a good fight. Way to go guys!!

    Other than my personal speculations and correlations of information I have relied on references and prior work of others more qualified individuals. To the degree that errors have occurred they would be solely my responsibility. Please feel free to help correct or update any of this information. References I have used liberally for this synopsis which I encourage consultation is as follows:

    http://www.nps.gov/sara/
    http://www.saratoga.org/battle1777/history.html
    http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysarato/sarapk.htm#Top
    http://valleyforgemusterroll.org/BIOs.htm
    http://valleyforgemusterroll.org/xxDiv4_4MA.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebenezer_Learned
    http://www.ushistory.org/valleyforge/served/learned.html
    http://www.rootsweb.com/~maworces/oxford/genebenezerlearned.html
    http://www.archivecdbooksusa.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?AFFIL=TBA1&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=US0206
    http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/state/revwar/index.html
    http://www.masshist.org/findingaids/doc.cfm?fa=fa0020
    http://www.myrevolutionarywar.com/battles/771007.htm
    http://www.yatesville.net/histctr/historyctr.html


    August 10, 2007

    Ron Yates

    (Carpenter: Robert (1772-1777);Robert (1775-1838);Abner McNair(1799-1851);John McNair (1828-1887);LeRoy Fremont (1878-1964);Luella Mae (1929)

    Robert married Mercy Roberts in 1762 in West Greenwich, Kent, Rhode Island. Mercy was born about 1747 in West Greenwich, Kent, Rhode Island. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Mercy Roberts was born about 1747 in West Greenwich, Kent, Rhode Island.
    Children:
    1. Mercy Carpenter was born on 14 May 1763 in Kent, Rhode Island.
    2. Ezra Joneth Carpenter was born on 10 Aug 1764 in Kent, Rhode Island; died on 7 Aug 1849 in Lake, Ohio; was buried in Kirtland, Lake, Ohio.
    3. 4. Robert Carpenter was born in 1775 in Palmer, Hampden, Massachusetts; died on 3 Apr 1838 in Bristol, Ontario, New York; was buried in Pleasant Valley East Cemetery, Springwater, Livingston, New York.

  3. 10.  Robert McNair was born about 1755 (son of John S. McNair and Ethel Mary Payne).

    Notes:

    Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files, 1800-1900
    Name: Robert Mcnair Application State: Rhode Island Applicant Designation: Survivor's Pension Application File Archive Publication Number: M804 Archive Roll Number: 1698 Total Pages in Packet: 1

    1800 United States Federal Census Name: Robert Mcnair Home in 1800: Augusta, Ontario, New York

    1840: New York Census, 1790-1890 Name: Robert McNair State: NY County: Yates County Township: Age 84 Middlesex Year: 1840 Page: 101 Database: NY 1840 Pensioners List

    1840 United States Federal Census Name: Robt Mcnair Home in 1840: Middlesex, Yates, New York Birth Year: abt 1755 Age: 85 Military Service: Veteran

    Family Data Collection - Individual Records Name: Robert Mcnair Parents: John Mcnair Mary Birth Place: Newport, Newport, RI Birth Date: 1757 Marriage Place: Warwick, RI Marriage Date: 1779 Death Place: Middlesex, Ontarionowyates, NY Death Date: 1841

    Family Data Collection - Births Name: Robert Mcnair Father: John Mcnair Birth Date: 1757 City: Newport County: Newport State: RI Country: USA

    Family Data Collection - Deaths Name: Robert Mcnair Death Date: 1841 City: Middlesex County: Ontarionowyates State: NY Country: USA

    Robert married Sarah Cranston in 1779 in Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island. Sarah was born on 8 Sep 1755 in Rhode Island; died in 1836 in New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Sarah Cranston was born on 8 Sep 1755 in Rhode Island; died in 1836 in New York.
    Children:
    1. Sarah Hulda McNair was born about 1780 in Rhode Island.
    2. 5. Phebe McNair was born on 10 Feb 1781 in Portsmouth, Rhode Island; died on 26 Sep 1868 in South Bristol, New York; was buried in Pleasant Valley East Cemetery, Springwater, Livingston, New York.
    3. Robert McNair, Jr. was born in 1783 in Rhode Island.
    4. Nancy McNair was born about 1784 in Rhode Island.
    5. William McNair was born about 1786 in Rhode Island.
    6. Hugh McNair was born about 1790 in Rhode Island.
    7. Caleb McNair was born on 14 Aug 1792 in Rhode Island; died on 11 Jan 1863 in Ontario, New York; was buried in School House Cemetery, Naples, Ontario, New York.

  5. 12.  John McNair, Jr. was born about 1750.
    Children:
    1. 6. John McNair, III was born in 1776 in Newport, Rhode Island; died on 28 Aug 1835 in Decatur, Indiana.

  6. 14.  Thomas Allen was born about 1725 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island (son of William Allen, VII and Freelove Tillinghast); died in 1793 in New York.

    Notes:

    [SOURCE; From: Russell Allen; February 3, 2017 10:58 AM; Subject: Blind Allens(Allins) of Prudence; Hello Dave, Ron, Helen, I stumbled across your names while doing some research. My name is Russell Allen and a direct descendant of Joshua of the Blind Allens who is my 4th Great Grandfather, my grandfather Charles E. Allen gathered the notes for my Uncle Devere Allen to write the manuscript " Some Prudence Island Allens" I have been researching the family for over 20 years. First, I would like to say it is correct that Thomas & Rebecca and the family of Blind Allens did not perished on the trip West. The first 3 daughters who were not blind were married and stayed behind. Thomas & Rebecca along with the remaining 8 children made the trip. Joshua was not blind the other 7 were. They left on board the sloop " Sally " on Sept 4th 1794.The Sally was mastered by Cyrus Allen. travelled up the Hudson to Albany. Other families also went McNairs and Peeresses. It is true blind Sweet and John stayed behind in Amsterdam while the parents and other 6 children followed the Mohawk to Middlesex, Yates County. Durfee was a stepson and nephew of Tom and Rebecca who lost his parents at a young age. Hope this helps. Best regards, Russell Allen]

    From: Town of Bristol Historian Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 Subject: Thomas Allen To: Yatesville1@gmail.com; Please be aware that Thomas Allen born ABT 1725 Prudence Island, RI did not die in Genesee Co, NY. The Allen family (Blind Allens) came to Ontario Co, NY called the Genesee Country. After 1821 that part of Ontario County became Yates County.

    "Cleveland's History of Yates County" refers to them. It should also be noted that the cause of blindness currently has been identified as diabetes. Tracing the families of Allens and McNairs across the country it is noted that this condition has been carried on thru the families.

    Early histories of this family are incorrect assuming that it was different incorrect cause. Wish this could be corrected as the medical history of this family is important. Helen C Fox Bristol Town Historian brhist@frontier.com

    From: Dave Mosbruger [mailto:dmosbruger@verizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:40 PM To: yatesville1@gmail.com Subject: History and Genealogy

    Ron, Hello! I stumbled across your website today doing a Google search on an elusive branch of my family - the Allens from the Portsmouth, RI area. If you don't mind, I have a couple questions for you and I may also be able to contribute to your Allens.

    My biggest question is one I don't know that you can answer. I can trace my Allens back to Durfee Allen, Sr, b. 15 Aug 1787 in RI, d. 24 Feb 1856 in Prattsburgh, Steuben Co, NY (but he is buried in Middlesex, Yates County), his home of many years). One source, a letter copying a history of some sort, says Durfee Allen the first (he had a son named Durfee) "... was the step-son of the old man Thomas Allen..." If this is true, I may not truly have an Allen line past Durfee the first. Unfortunately, I have found no further information on these Allens other than several lived in Yates County (NY) and several of the siblings were blind (known as the Blind Allens).

    Regardless, other on-line sources (primarily from Rootsweb, as I recall) suggest old man Thomas Allen is the same Thomas Allen listed on your web site as having been born in 1761 and married a Durfee. For what it's worth, the same lady who gave me this info says Thomas Allen was married to Durfee Young. I don't know her source for this information.

    Thomas Allen's parents were Thomas and Rebekah Allen. It appears her maiden name really was Allen. I have his parents as William Allen and Freelove Tillinghast (agrees with your info). I have her parents as John Allen and Rebecca Hill.

    A few online resources that may or may not be of interest to you:

    http://archive.org/details/allengouldhillge00goul is a link to the descendants of William Allen of Prudence Island, RI. John Allen, married to Rebecca Hill (above) is the third generation from William and is Allen #20 in this book. Rebekah Allen, married to Thomas Allen, is Allen #63.

    http://archive.org/details/descendantsoftho00lcreed is a link to the descendants of Thomas Durfee of Portsmouth, RI. This book is the first of two volumes. In it I can trace the Durfees down to the point where a Sarah Durfee of Portsmouth, RI married John Allen, Jr of Prudence Island, RI on 9 Apr 1747(p. 199). It appears highly likely to me that John Allen, Jr. was the sixth child of John Allen and Rebecca Hill. Their John was born 26 Oct 1725 on Prudence Island.

    Unfortunately for me, I have all this enticing information about the Rhode Islandl Allens, but very little info is available on the Allens that moved to Yates County, NY. Still, I hope the above references prove useful to you in your research.

    Sincerely, Dave Mosbruger

    Thomas married Rebecca Allen on 19 Mar 1749 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island. Rebecca (daughter of John Allen and Rebeckah Hill) was born on 25 May 1730 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island; died in 1790 in Yates, New York. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 15.  Rebecca Allen was born on 25 May 1730 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island (daughter of John Allen and Rebeckah Hill); died in 1790 in Yates, New York.

    Notes:

    [SOURCE; From: Russell Allen; February 3, 2017 10:58 AM; Subject: Blind Allens(Allins) of Prudence; Hello Dave, Ron, Helen, I stumbled across your names while doing some research. My name is Russell Allen and a direct descendant of Joshua of the Blind Allens who is my 4th Great Grandfather, my grandfather Charles E. Allen gathered the notes for my Uncle Devere Allen to write the manuscript " Some Prudence Island Allens" I have been researching the family for over 20 years. First, I would like to say it is correct that Thomas & Rebecca and the family of Blind Allens did not perished on the trip West. The first 3 daughters who were not blind were married and stayed behind. Thomas & Rebecca along with the remaining 8 children made the trip. Joshua was not blind the other 7 were. They left on board the sloop " Sally " on Sept 4th 1794.The Sally was mastered by Cyrus Allen. travelled up the Hudson to Albany. Other families also went McNairs and Peeresses. It is true blind Sweet and John stayed behind in Amsterdam while the parents and other 6 children followed the Mohawk to Middlesex, Yates County. Durfee was a stepson and nephew of Tom and Rebecca who lost his parents at a young age. Hope this helps. Best regards, Russell Allen]

    Thomas Allen and Rebecca Allen, cousins who were descendants of William Allen (1640-1685), who came to Rhode island from Wales, Yorkshire, England, to settle on Prudence Island in the Narragansett Bay. Thomas Allen was the son of a later William Allen and his wife, Freelove Tillinghast. Rebecca Allen was the daughter of John Allen and Rebeckah Hill. In his genealogy on the Prudence Island Allens, DeVere Allen writes in great detail about Thomas and Rebecca (Allen) Allen's family, which he calls the "blind Allens." This reflects the fact that the mother and several children were blind. In the 1790s, as the family tried to move to upstate New York from Prudence Island, several members perished on the boat they used. Some survived, but their story truly is a tragic one.

    Children:
    1. Freelove Allen was born on 25 Jan 1750 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island.
    2. Joshua Allen was born on 17 Aug 1751 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island; died about 1810 in Yates, New York.
    3. Margaret Allen was born on 18 Feb 1753 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island.
    4. Mary Allen was born on 9 Nov 1755 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island.
    5. Rebecca Allen was born on 17 Dec 1757 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island; died in 1794.
    6. Patience Allen was born on 18 Nov 1759.
    7. Thomas Allen, Jr. was born on 17 Feb 1761 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island; died in in Yates, New York.
    8. Mehitable Allen was born on 5 Oct 1763 in Prudence Island, Newport, Rhode Island; died in 1794.
    9. John Allen was born on 23 Nov 1765 in Newport, Rhode Island; died on 29 Jul 1845 in Trumbull, Ohio.
    10. 7. Hannah Allen was born on 3 Aug 1767 in Portsmouth, Newport, Rhode Island; died on 16 Feb 1836 in St. Omar, Decatur, Indiana.
    11. Sweet Allen was born on 27 Nov 1769 in Newport, Rhode Island.